Looking forward to Rolo Slavskiy’s take. There were so many layers to everything going on in Russia, and so hard to determine motivations underneath motivations both in general and underneath the media lies. After Prigozhin’s so-called aborted coup, he traveled freely around Russia and Moscow and it seemed like he suffered no repercussions, although populists within the military and Strelkov did. Perhaps that was so he would let down his guard? Why were Prigozhin and Utkin traveling together (if they were)?
As I wrote at the time of the aborted coup, it seemed to me like it was akin to Caesar crossing the Rubicon, then saying “whoops sorry guys my bad” and then calling the whole thing off. Caesar would have certainly met an untimely end in that circumstance…
Sounds like a 6D chess game. Obviously Prigozihn is not dead. He faked his death and he is hiding in Africa again spreading democracy and freedom. The FSB are participating as the bad guys who shot his plane but they didn't actually kill him. It is operation Trust again. This time everybody who thinks that Prigozihn is actually killed is a traitor for the russian cause in Ukraine which means that a lot of people must go to jail.
In just one Polish portal, I’ve read at the same time that Prigozhin’s death makes Putin looks weak (b/c security guarantees) and that Prigozhin being alive made Putin look weak (b/c putsch went unpunished). Meanwhile, pro-Russian pundits who were trying to spin that that nonsensical theory that “Wagner group punked the CIA out of 4 billion“ (news flash: it did not) are suddenly back on board with the CIA being so omnipotent that they can shoot down planes with Russia’s most powerful warlords (and, supposedly, personal security guarantees from Putin). Apart, of course, from those who announce now that a traitor got a deserved end. Gotta love both mainstream and “alternative” commentators.
People of Donetzk shelled daily... but ukrainian ruling clique sound and healthy. Kremlin has its own priorities. Mafia style assasination shows that Russia is a joke right now. On top of that president Putin attending BRICS summit from his bunker ( I bet he is triple jabbed and multiple PCR tested there). True leader of multipolar world... OMG! This is not 4d chess :-))
The same zanoners who said Putin spared him because of mercy will now claim that Putin killed him to send a message or something...or they will just blame the CIA
Well, it's one of the characteristics of a plane crash that the bodies are often unrecognizable. But what we do know thus far is that a plane belonging to P and on which he was logged in as a passenger went down with no survivors.
Well, at least he didn't accidentally fall out of a high rise window. This is another way to do it.
Anyway... no one has mentioned the possibility that death was due to covid-19...
Looking forward to Rolo Slavskiy’s take. There were so many layers to everything going on in Russia, and so hard to determine motivations underneath motivations both in general and underneath the media lies. After Prigozhin’s so-called aborted coup, he traveled freely around Russia and Moscow and it seemed like he suffered no repercussions, although populists within the military and Strelkov did. Perhaps that was so he would let down his guard? Why were Prigozhin and Utkin traveling together (if they were)?
As I wrote at the time of the aborted coup, it seemed to me like it was akin to Caesar crossing the Rubicon, then saying “whoops sorry guys my bad” and then calling the whole thing off. Caesar would have certainly met an untimely end in that circumstance…
will the probable suspects please stand up
wait wait guys! one at a time!
If he is dead, why assume it was the work of Russian oligarchs? The Western powers certainly had a motive as well.
Sounds like a 6D chess game. Obviously Prigozihn is not dead. He faked his death and he is hiding in Africa again spreading democracy and freedom. The FSB are participating as the bad guys who shot his plane but they didn't actually kill him. It is operation Trust again. This time everybody who thinks that Prigozihn is actually killed is a traitor for the russian cause in Ukraine which means that a lot of people must go to jail.
Well see if its true and if hes dead.
This is true regardless: "tens of thousands of Slavs are killed and maimed for no reason whatsoever."
Well, there are a few reasons. Worst ones are "for the profit of it" and to erradicate certain genes in that part of the world.
In just one Polish portal, I’ve read at the same time that Prigozhin’s death makes Putin looks weak (b/c security guarantees) and that Prigozhin being alive made Putin look weak (b/c putsch went unpunished). Meanwhile, pro-Russian pundits who were trying to spin that that nonsensical theory that “Wagner group punked the CIA out of 4 billion“ (news flash: it did not) are suddenly back on board with the CIA being so omnipotent that they can shoot down planes with Russia’s most powerful warlords (and, supposedly, personal security guarantees from Putin). Apart, of course, from those who announce now that a traitor got a deserved end. Gotta love both mainstream and “alternative” commentators.
For decades "Accidental" plane crashes has been a favored modus operandi for murdering political foes.🙈
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_heads_of_state_and_government_who_died_in_aviation_accidents_and_incidents
https://www.politico.com/story/2010/08/the-sad-history-of-politicians-and-plane-crashes-040902
Bad Vlad
Went to BRICS
Virtually
Prigozhin
Went to ground.
Literally.
My oh my....the spin doctors and conspirator theorists are gonna have a field day for some time with this one.
People of Donetzk shelled daily... but ukrainian ruling clique sound and healthy. Kremlin has its own priorities. Mafia style assasination shows that Russia is a joke right now. On top of that president Putin attending BRICS summit from his bunker ( I bet he is triple jabbed and multiple PCR tested there). True leader of multipolar world... OMG! This is not 4d chess :-))
Could have been revenge by the air force, would be fitting indeed. I doubt Moscow would be so obvious about it
Will be interesting to see if he was actually important in Wagner operations or just a figurehead.
The same zanoners who said Putin spared him because of mercy will now claim that Putin killed him to send a message or something...or they will just blame the CIA
Well, it's one of the characteristics of a plane crash that the bodies are often unrecognizable. But what we do know thus far is that a plane belonging to P and on which he was logged in as a passenger went down with no survivors.
We do not yet know
a) if he and Utkin were on board or
b) if their bodies have been recognized.
Time will tell.
Maybe!
Inside job no doubt about it. Unless he has retired permanently to his datsja in Siberia. But I think he has too big a mouth to keep that up.