As the Prigozhin drama has developed over the last few months, it has been clear to me that the Russian defense realm was seriously messed up *regardless of the underlying facts* (which I do not claim to understand).
EITHER Prigozhin/Wagner is a patriotic bulwark against a Ministry of Defense rife with … what number column are we up to? eight? let’s go with eight … rife with eighth columnists,
OR the Russian military has assigned an important part of the not-war effort to a disloyal lunatic.
Either way, messed up. So it’s no surprise if it’s coming to a head.
I wouldn’t mind at some point actually coming to understand what’s been going on, but that’s an increasingly tall order in today’s world.
It’s seems reductionist to blame every bloody chaotic war, battle and medical genocide on Jews, but brutal chaos is the essence of these satanic tricksters. Jews are enmeshed in master-slave relationships and they are unlikable as both. They have no ability to see a third way. They do not acknowledge such a thing as honorable reciprocity.
You'll do better on rt at this point. Hal Turner has gone quiet. He's preparing for his show. Rt is doing a bunch of updates and said all is quiet right now. Fingers crossed and prayers that we all wake up tomorrow.
This is only extreme weirdness and a mystery if one pretends that Russia hasn't been an occupied nation since 1917, and pretends that the same group who rules Russia doesn't also rule Ukraine, and the rest of the world.
This is a game of "let's pretend that Russia isn't ruled by the Ashkenazi/Khazars, who also rule Ukraine, the Anglo-American empire, and everywhere else".
Let's pretend that they haven't promised to cleanse the Slavs from the face of the Earth and restore the Jewish state of Khazaria.
Let's not notice that Slavs by the thousands are being murdered on both sides, and huge territories are being gradually cleansed of Slavs, while the Jews in power in all participating states make sure it doesn't stop. No, that's just a coincidence; couldn't be the explanation...
The Wagner CEO is a minor problem, and he will be disciplined somehow. If he's got so much support in the military that it takes a joint FSB/NATO operation to deal with him, that will happen. And then we'll all pretend it didn't happen that way.
I agree, and do consider the possibility that Prigozhin might be acting, in order to fool all the naive patriotic Russians (showing that someone is fighting for them against the corrupt establishment), and most importantly to keep his army loyal and willing to die for him while they're being attacked from the front and rear. In the end, his whole army will be slaughtered, because they are patriotic, and he must know this.
Yes, I know about Planned Parenthood horror show. Thanks for the details!
I heard about the secret use for livers of infants and about other atrocities they are involved with. Its crazy how sinister it all is! Organ harvesting done on large scale. Satanism disguised as care for people.
More inter-slav slaughtering. The West couldn't have asked for a better gift--regardless of whether Prigozhin is right or wrong in his constant complaints.
The Wagner forces were moved to the north recently to help protect against the cross-border incursions by Ukrainian guerilla units (rogue?) into the Belgorod region, as I understand it. Put this together with some reports that these guerillas have been blustering that they are kitted out with Russian Army uniforms, and you COULD conclude that these forces pulled off some kind of an attack on a Wagner base. Prigozhin may believe that they were attacked by actual Russian Army.
Seems fake, there's no way Wagner can attack Moscow and survive unless there is a broader coup in the works. But if that were the case and the military was on Prighozin's side already why aren't they just solving the military problems that he's always complaining about. It's not like he's trying to do a political change of power (which is by definition what a coup is anyway). No idea what to make of this
Cheers Anri ;) I could have not said it better! Spanish Flu and inception of radar technology combined with experimentation with "vaccines". Diabolic situation from the start of 20th century that has huge effect on humanity even today!
War is the perfect situation for experimentation on taxcattle or purging of unwanted elements in population. Also, all evidence of criminal behavior can easily be destroyed and deaths can easily be disguised as fighting. Whole platoons can be ambushed and eliminated. Or bombed, by mistake...
Anri, thanks ever so much for the nuke hoax information!
Im starting to suspect that skyrocketing cancer in Serbia after NATO bombing of 1996 is NOT caused by depleted uranium missilies.
Besides, Croatia had similar issues with cancer without any NATO bombings.
Some other form of poisoning was taking place. EMF or chemical, idk.
THANK GOD they did not have any super advanced nano tech "vaccines" back then. Otherwise, I would probably be gone...
When I was in the military during the war, I lived through an post-vaccine epidemic. Some kind of infectious disease that hit the whole base with 2500 soldiers and we had to be quarantined for a month.
My generation was hit the worst. So many of us ended up without children....
I have the growing suspicion this uprisal is part of the show. What? A couple of bombers flying over Wagner's columns and dropping their deadly things could not end the revolt?
Just one additional item not mentioned here - earlier in the day the Telegraph (UK) was reporting that Prigozhin was saying Russian troops were "retreating amid heavy casualties in southern UKR" - The guy is either a suicidal madman or .. I don't know what. Surely he can't seriously think he can prevail in a grand march to Moscow .... unless he has reason to believe other forces will support him - or refuse orders to resist him?
Sleep well all - thanks for the urgent update, Riley.
Sorry Riley! People are doing "rash" things. 9:25pm EDT - "Reports the Federal Security Service (FSB) has allowed Wagner to enter Russian city of Rostov without any resistance" - "... Gerasimov gave the command to open fire from aircraft on Wagner columns mixed with civilian vehicles. The pilots refused to follow the order" .... some guy on Twitter -
Madman or not, it seems that by chosing this precise moment (in the middle of the UAF offense) for his uprisal he is doing a great service to the NATO forces...
another guy on Twitter: "Wagner shot down a Russian army helicopter after it opened fire on civilians reportedly, per FT and Russian Telegram."
As always - those poor guys in the trenches in Donbass! - something like this has got to be a total morale drainer ... ... should we expect a mass chaotic retreat along the entire line of engagement? This is developing fast - there is a photo of dozens of military vehicles deployed in Moscow. Is it about 1200 km from Wagner deployment to Moscow? - that is a hike!
How fortunate that I've recently begun following Rolo and have a bare understanding into this matter.
Just my opinion only.
This is, of course, the Oligarchs playing their next card. The Wagner forces, a fighting force with the goal of winning the Ukraine conflict in Russia's favor, proves a stark contrast to the Russian military. The Russian military is present to obfuscate matters and lengthen the war into the types we see in the Middle East with the U.S.A.
The U.S., the HQ for Global Oligarchs (with London City thrown into the mix as close brethren), has mastered the useless, unending war whereby local citizens are traumatized and liquidated. See Gaia's interview with the former Navy seal who spoke of the The Looking Glass, which was an obfuscation because the real lesson was his history in learning our true objectives in Iraq as we bombed with no remorse friendly Iraqi villages killing women and children for absolutely no reason except to instill hatred, division, and fear among the people.
Are the Khazars (Oligarchs) this cruel? Yes.
That's all they want from the Ukraine situation. War's chaos allows them to launder huge sums of money. Remember the Dutch banker's, Ronald Bernard, story of counting truckloads of cash at a German bank coming from Iran (or Iraq?) to launder that money. They found "safe" accounts into which they "relocated" the money. Wars move huge quantities of money.
Wars are never fought and finished these days. As the BlackRock big mouth said for O'Keefe's OMG this last week in his undercover interview, wars are BIG BUSINESS. Moreover, oligarchs are not omniscient. They must play the cards they're dealt. The do wield enormous power through finances and power intrigues, but they are still physical human beings (albeit bred intergenerationally) who must deal on a physical plane.
They are doing to Russia what they have long done to the U.S. but using Russia's unique characteristics as a nation. Putin's "brave" words about preserving Russian national culture, history, and heritage are to obfuscate further. I believe they call it gelding the young stallion.
Xi has recently pulled back with his "China First" policy, but they are very clever men, and Xi, too, will feel the knife at his crotch.
If I were a young Russian male, I would join Prigozhin. Unfortunately, Prigozhin gave into his feelings and will bear the responsibility for this episode and join the geldings. He will be neutralized. Did the Russian military fire on his men? Yes, they did.
There are no honorable wars, nor wars worth a single life on the planet these days. As Butler said, all wars are bankers' wars.
Well, if there are no wars worth a single life on the planet, then there'd be no reason to join Prigozhin even if you were a young Russian male. :-)
I do not know, but methinks Prigozhin is doing a weak favour to Russia and a big favour to NATO by uprising in this moment (regardless of whether he's right in his complaints about the MoD or not).
Ah! Yes. You're right. I should have prefaced my comment with "If there were any wars worth fighting...." I think Progizhen has always been a loose cannon. The entire situation of fielding an independent mercenary fight force along side a regulated national armed force is bizarre...but undoubtedly very Russian. The fallacy was undertaken by the MOD and Russian leadership who failed to understand that another fighting force might actually want to execute and win a war. One of those troubling human foibles.
This is something that has been going on for a while. There are factions who believe Putin is too soft on Ukraine; They wanted a shock-and-awe attack instead of a surgical attack. This is more of a coup to remove Putin. Many in the know, and I am lucky to know one of them, say Putin is a moderate and hard-liners are looking for a way to finish Ukraine, no matter the destruction. Putin wanted to preserve the country.
The top enemy is not in Moscow. It is here in the US, named Lindsey Graham from South Carolina, a Senator (one of many). May 26 appears to be the date Moscow decided that the West wants to destroy Russia, everyone there now knows this is the case. This is the day Graham declared that the money sent to Ukraine was the best money spent and simply said with glee to kill all Russians. This woke up the fence sitters in Moscow; they now want to finish the job quickly and prepare for the inevitable NATO attack.
The Neocons are pushing us to WW3. They need to be stopped. Ukraine has lost, and this will spur the West to attack. Look for a false flag to set up the attack by NATO SOON. FUCK these US Neocons! Remember WMD? The same playbook is coming.
Metadata shows that Prigozhin’s audio messages were pre-recorded all at once, even though he’s releasing them one at a time. https://t.me/Slavyangrad/51898
1991 - 1993 - I had forgotten - the violence outside the Russian parliament building was two years after the coup/ouster of Gorbachev in 91 - concluding with the communist party just saying never mind! let's just forget the whole thing (i.e. the last 74 years). I drew a blank at first at the "1993" video above. 1991 was only suits in conflict, right? - Not kinetic.
And by the way - re: "CERTAIN SWANKY AREAS OF MOSCOW (New Riga and Rublyovka)" - has not Prigozhin specifically suggested that such areas might be his initial and particular targets?
Regardless of whether or not Prigozhin is right in his constant claims and complaints, this seems to me like the worst moment for a sort of rebellion. One might think, that questionable patriot (do oligarchs have a patria?) is doing a great service to the West, helping weakening Russian morale at the front in the best case, or creating total chaos in the worst, while risking more inter-slavs slaughtering. No matter how super-efficient private armies might be in comparison with regular ones, they are a very dangerous source of instability for a nation.
I don't think Rolo is asleep. He's probably thinking how to seize this chance for going full paywall... ;-)
As the Prigozhin drama has developed over the last few months, it has been clear to me that the Russian defense realm was seriously messed up *regardless of the underlying facts* (which I do not claim to understand).
EITHER Prigozhin/Wagner is a patriotic bulwark against a Ministry of Defense rife with … what number column are we up to? eight? let’s go with eight … rife with eighth columnists,
OR the Russian military has assigned an important part of the not-war effort to a disloyal lunatic.
Either way, messed up. So it’s no surprise if it’s coming to a head.
I wouldn’t mind at some point actually coming to understand what’s been going on, but that’s an increasingly tall order in today’s world.
Gamarjoba dreams, Edward.
Hey, at least the seventh collumnists are true Russian friends
You’ve got a sweet column there. We’re having drinks here in the twelfth column; come on over.
Here too... on the fourteenth column, contemplating 3D about to move into 4D move to unpack the situation!
I said this long before, but by now it's obvious for everyone that Putin is even a worse leader than Yeltsin.
Final Column here
I WANNA BE A COLUMN. C'MON, GUYS.....
We have an opening for a Golem!
Any takers?
Apply... er, over there.
I always keep this flyer in mind with each day of this theater: https://gtvflyers.com/2023/02/21/every-single-aspect-of-the-russia-ukraine-war-is-jewish/
It’s seems reductionist to blame every bloody chaotic war, battle and medical genocide on Jews, but brutal chaos is the essence of these satanic tricksters. Jews are enmeshed in master-slave relationships and they are unlikable as both. They have no ability to see a third way. They do not acknowledge such a thing as honorable reciprocity.
lol that avatar
Hal Turner's been posting updates on this for about an hour. Pretty much the same as you. Crazy times. Thank you and God bless.
Thanks JQ, link please.
Yes, link please!
https://halturnerradioshow.com/index.php/en/
You'll do better on rt at this point. Hal Turner has gone quiet. He's preparing for his show. Rt is doing a bunch of updates and said all is quiet right now. Fingers crossed and prayers that we all wake up tomorrow.
Thanks, JQ.
This is only extreme weirdness and a mystery if one pretends that Russia hasn't been an occupied nation since 1917, and pretends that the same group who rules Russia doesn't also rule Ukraine, and the rest of the world.
This is a game of "let's pretend that Russia isn't ruled by the Ashkenazi/Khazars, who also rule Ukraine, the Anglo-American empire, and everywhere else".
Let's pretend that they haven't promised to cleanse the Slavs from the face of the Earth and restore the Jewish state of Khazaria.
Let's not notice that Slavs by the thousands are being murdered on both sides, and huge territories are being gradually cleansed of Slavs, while the Jews in power in all participating states make sure it doesn't stop. No, that's just a coincidence; couldn't be the explanation...
The Wagner CEO is a minor problem, and he will be disciplined somehow. If he's got so much support in the military that it takes a joint FSB/NATO operation to deal with him, that will happen. And then we'll all pretend it didn't happen that way.
Yep, a grand purge! That is why these poor people are called cannon fodder.
Btw, Prigozhin might be acting. To fool all the naive patriotic Russians. So they can get purged better
I agree, and do consider the possibility that Prigozhin might be acting, in order to fool all the naive patriotic Russians (showing that someone is fighting for them against the corrupt establishment), and most importantly to keep his army loyal and willing to die for him while they're being attacked from the front and rear. In the end, his whole army will be slaughtered, because they are patriotic, and he must know this.
Yes, I know about Planned Parenthood horror show. Thanks for the details!
I heard about the secret use for livers of infants and about other atrocities they are involved with. Its crazy how sinister it all is! Organ harvesting done on large scale. Satanism disguised as care for people.
More inter-slav slaughtering. The West couldn't have asked for a better gift--regardless of whether Prigozhin is right or wrong in his constant complaints.
The Wagner forces were moved to the north recently to help protect against the cross-border incursions by Ukrainian guerilla units (rogue?) into the Belgorod region, as I understand it. Put this together with some reports that these guerillas have been blustering that they are kitted out with Russian Army uniforms, and you COULD conclude that these forces pulled off some kind of an attack on a Wagner base. Prigozhin may believe that they were attacked by actual Russian Army.
Just a possible explanation?
Possible but, in my uninformed opinion, not too plausible. In any case, Prigozhin has been looking for an excuse to march on Moscow for months...
Brits were setting up groups specifically for this. Prigo is either an idiot or a Quislling..
mod has been stabbing wagner in the back since 2017, they do have genuine reason to dislike them.
Seems fake, there's no way Wagner can attack Moscow and survive unless there is a broader coup in the works. But if that were the case and the military was on Prighozin's side already why aren't they just solving the military problems that he's always complaining about. It's not like he's trying to do a political change of power (which is by definition what a coup is anyway). No idea what to make of this
The goal of this "war"? As many dead as possible! On all sides. Sacrifice of taxcattle continues, be it with murderous injections or depleted uranium.
Cheers Anri ;) I could have not said it better! Spanish Flu and inception of radar technology combined with experimentation with "vaccines". Diabolic situation from the start of 20th century that has huge effect on humanity even today!
War is the perfect situation for experimentation on taxcattle or purging of unwanted elements in population. Also, all evidence of criminal behavior can easily be destroyed and deaths can easily be disguised as fighting. Whole platoons can be ambushed and eliminated. Or bombed, by mistake...
Thank you Anri. Have a nice one yourself!
Anri, thanks ever so much for the nuke hoax information!
Im starting to suspect that skyrocketing cancer in Serbia after NATO bombing of 1996 is NOT caused by depleted uranium missilies.
Besides, Croatia had similar issues with cancer without any NATO bombings.
Some other form of poisoning was taking place. EMF or chemical, idk.
THANK GOD they did not have any super advanced nano tech "vaccines" back then. Otherwise, I would probably be gone...
When I was in the military during the war, I lived through an post-vaccine epidemic. Some kind of infectious disease that hit the whole base with 2500 soldiers and we had to be quarantined for a month.
My generation was hit the worst. So many of us ended up without children....
Exactly. Even if he could take Moscow, the government is still not on his side.
All this accomplishes is to bring fear to Russian people and have military roaming around.
I have the growing suspicion this uprisal is part of the show. What? A couple of bombers flying over Wagner's columns and dropping their deadly things could not end the revolt?
Just one additional item not mentioned here - earlier in the day the Telegraph (UK) was reporting that Prigozhin was saying Russian troops were "retreating amid heavy casualties in southern UKR" - The guy is either a suicidal madman or .. I don't know what. Surely he can't seriously think he can prevail in a grand march to Moscow .... unless he has reason to believe other forces will support him - or refuse orders to resist him?
Sleep well all - thanks for the urgent update, Riley.
Sorry Riley! People are doing "rash" things. 9:25pm EDT - "Reports the Federal Security Service (FSB) has allowed Wagner to enter Russian city of Rostov without any resistance" - "... Gerasimov gave the command to open fire from aircraft on Wagner columns mixed with civilian vehicles. The pilots refused to follow the order" .... some guy on Twitter -
"madman" may be looking a little less likely.
Madman or not, it seems that by chosing this precise moment (in the middle of the UAF offense) for his uprisal he is doing a great service to the NATO forces...
Absolutely! - whatever happens from this point out - significant - maybe epochal - victory for the Regimes in DC, Davos and Brussels.
another guy on Twitter: "Wagner shot down a Russian army helicopter after it opened fire on civilians reportedly, per FT and Russian Telegram."
As always - those poor guys in the trenches in Donbass! - something like this has got to be a total morale drainer ... ... should we expect a mass chaotic retreat along the entire line of engagement? This is developing fast - there is a photo of dozens of military vehicles deployed in Moscow. Is it about 1200 km from Wagner deployment to Moscow? - that is a hike!
Lol The Telegraph (UK) is not a reliable source of information. It's all NATO lies and propaganda!
Of course, I agree entirely with you. That's why I said ".... is reporting" not simply "Russian troops were" ... etc.
How fortunate that I've recently begun following Rolo and have a bare understanding into this matter.
Just my opinion only.
This is, of course, the Oligarchs playing their next card. The Wagner forces, a fighting force with the goal of winning the Ukraine conflict in Russia's favor, proves a stark contrast to the Russian military. The Russian military is present to obfuscate matters and lengthen the war into the types we see in the Middle East with the U.S.A.
The U.S., the HQ for Global Oligarchs (with London City thrown into the mix as close brethren), has mastered the useless, unending war whereby local citizens are traumatized and liquidated. See Gaia's interview with the former Navy seal who spoke of the The Looking Glass, which was an obfuscation because the real lesson was his history in learning our true objectives in Iraq as we bombed with no remorse friendly Iraqi villages killing women and children for absolutely no reason except to instill hatred, division, and fear among the people.
Are the Khazars (Oligarchs) this cruel? Yes.
That's all they want from the Ukraine situation. War's chaos allows them to launder huge sums of money. Remember the Dutch banker's, Ronald Bernard, story of counting truckloads of cash at a German bank coming from Iran (or Iraq?) to launder that money. They found "safe" accounts into which they "relocated" the money. Wars move huge quantities of money.
Wars are never fought and finished these days. As the BlackRock big mouth said for O'Keefe's OMG this last week in his undercover interview, wars are BIG BUSINESS. Moreover, oligarchs are not omniscient. They must play the cards they're dealt. The do wield enormous power through finances and power intrigues, but they are still physical human beings (albeit bred intergenerationally) who must deal on a physical plane.
They are doing to Russia what they have long done to the U.S. but using Russia's unique characteristics as a nation. Putin's "brave" words about preserving Russian national culture, history, and heritage are to obfuscate further. I believe they call it gelding the young stallion.
Xi has recently pulled back with his "China First" policy, but they are very clever men, and Xi, too, will feel the knife at his crotch.
If I were a young Russian male, I would join Prigozhin. Unfortunately, Prigozhin gave into his feelings and will bear the responsibility for this episode and join the geldings. He will be neutralized. Did the Russian military fire on his men? Yes, they did.
There are no honorable wars, nor wars worth a single life on the planet these days. As Butler said, all wars are bankers' wars.
Well, if there are no wars worth a single life on the planet, then there'd be no reason to join Prigozhin even if you were a young Russian male. :-)
I do not know, but methinks Prigozhin is doing a weak favour to Russia and a big favour to NATO by uprising in this moment (regardless of whether he's right in his complaints about the MoD or not).
Ah! Yes. You're right. I should have prefaced my comment with "If there were any wars worth fighting...." I think Progizhen has always been a loose cannon. The entire situation of fielding an independent mercenary fight force along side a regulated national armed force is bizarre...but undoubtedly very Russian. The fallacy was undertaken by the MOD and Russian leadership who failed to understand that another fighting force might actually want to execute and win a war. One of those troubling human foibles.
This is something that has been going on for a while. There are factions who believe Putin is too soft on Ukraine; They wanted a shock-and-awe attack instead of a surgical attack. This is more of a coup to remove Putin. Many in the know, and I am lucky to know one of them, say Putin is a moderate and hard-liners are looking for a way to finish Ukraine, no matter the destruction. Putin wanted to preserve the country.
The top enemy is not in Moscow. It is here in the US, named Lindsey Graham from South Carolina, a Senator (one of many). May 26 appears to be the date Moscow decided that the West wants to destroy Russia, everyone there now knows this is the case. This is the day Graham declared that the money sent to Ukraine was the best money spent and simply said with glee to kill all Russians. This woke up the fence sitters in Moscow; they now want to finish the job quickly and prepare for the inevitable NATO attack.
The Neocons are pushing us to WW3. They need to be stopped. Ukraine has lost, and this will spur the West to attack. Look for a false flag to set up the attack by NATO SOON. FUCK these US Neocons! Remember WMD? The same playbook is coming.
Metadata shows that Prigozhin’s audio messages were pre-recorded all at once, even though he’s releasing them one at a time. https://t.me/Slavyangrad/51898
Why not Deep Fake? Logic suggests no reason to say you are going to have a P-Funk party in the Kremlin.
Ditto about Hal.
Also recommended: Amir Tsarfati’s telegram
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Tim Pool is now on-topic too.
If only you could fly a drone over Moscow, but alas that's still forbidden.😁
Special Report from Simplicius: Emergency Situation as Prigozhin Goes Nuclear Option
https://simplicius76.substack.com/p/special-report-emergency-situation
Rolo was rolled over. Call Marko instead.
Hope this is not a flashback to August 1991 again.
1991 - 1993 - I had forgotten - the violence outside the Russian parliament building was two years after the coup/ouster of Gorbachev in 91 - concluding with the communist party just saying never mind! let's just forget the whole thing (i.e. the last 74 years). I drew a blank at first at the "1993" video above. 1991 was only suits in conflict, right? - Not kinetic.
And by the way - re: "CERTAIN SWANKY AREAS OF MOSCOW (New Riga and Rublyovka)" - has not Prigozhin specifically suggested that such areas might be his initial and particular targets?
Marko threw in the towel awhile back
I know, i'm trying to entice him again to the fight. Hé had the brightest mind in the entire blogosphere
Not at all.
Regardless of whether or not Prigozhin is right in his constant claims and complaints, this seems to me like the worst moment for a sort of rebellion. One might think, that questionable patriot (do oligarchs have a patria?) is doing a great service to the West, helping weakening Russian morale at the front in the best case, or creating total chaos in the worst, while risking more inter-slavs slaughtering. No matter how super-efficient private armies might be in comparison with regular ones, they are a very dangerous source of instability for a nation.
I don't think Rolo is asleep. He's probably thinking how to seize this chance for going full paywall... ;-)