Hi Lionel! Your post was delrted with your geave antisemitic content, right? No, my French isn't enough to connect or even to understand by voice for pity. I know German a bit but less than English.
I would be be happy to tell what I meant with my words.
I'm feeling the weight of centuries of opression. I know my genealogic history from th…
Hi Lionel! Your post was delrted with your geave antisemitic content, right? No, my French isn't enough to connect or even to understand by voice for pity. I know German a bit but less than English.
I would be be happy to tell what I meant with my words.
I'm feeling the weight of centuries of opression. I know my genealogic history from the early 18th century and I've got nothing to be shame with my ancestors. I've got the Russian surnane after my late husband, but my maden name is the Levit's one. My great grandmother was graduated from Heidelberg as a doctor, before revolution of course, and she was killed during Holacaust the autumn of 1941 in Kharkov. By nazy. With the hands of the Ukrainians. Read Babiy Jar by Anatoly Kuznetzov. It's a great evidence of the teen boy who was in the occupied Kiev. Half Russian, half Ukrainian he was. As for my great grandmum she didn't believe the Soviet propaganda about the Germans so she wasn't evacuated. She was separated from her german univercity friends with the october revolution of 1917. Her blood is in my vessels as well as the blood of my another great grandmother who was murdered during pogrom on 1920. It was the civil war and all the Jews in the small settlement in Belorussia were killed. She was killed with an axe, her old father in law was shooted, my granddad younger brother was hanged. The family of his uncle was killed. The youngest of my granddad brother who was 6 could hide and he had seen how his mum, his granddad and his brother were murdered. He left his life emmigrated to the States all in all. Everybody who stayed at home in thus very Jewish settlement were murdered. And how much of Jewish blood of martures is crying. Not for revenge. For beeing just remembered. It's just briefly. Very briefly. That's what I mean with the genetic memory I'd never betray.
You wrote:"Hi Lionel! Your post was delrted with your geave antisemitic content, right?"
Lol
No Elena there was no so called antisemitism in my writing and I will try to write again what I did yesterday. i don't even think you are a semite since you don't relate to a people with semitic language (correct me if I'm wrong).
I grew up in a city which has an higher percentage of Jews than in usual French city, Villeurbanne. It has a synagogue in it's center and two private schools for Jews only. The city is run by free maçons. Jews are 3% of the overall French population but like in many western countries, they are a majority in the media and if you ask any French, he would tell you an higher rate.
When I was a child, one of the mother who accompanied us kids to school was Madame Cohen. She was a very kind person who was very attentive to us. I remember when she told my mother that my voice was mutating with a great smile on her face.She clearly loves us. I knew she was a so called Jew because my father said so, without any hint of disregard. She was a French mother to me, it's just that her son, my friend didn't go to catechism with us, courses which were given by very kind "prêtres ouvriers" who told us about love for the others without any disregard for other human beings. She was secularized and a regular french in my eyes. Later on, another Jewish family settled some hundred meters from our home and established a synagogue. The son of the house was called Michael and was a good football pal with whom we loved to play. His mother had much disdain for us and I could clearly feel it as a child, in fact never before had I met an adult who had that attitude. The Rav never interact with any of the neighbourhood, like the flock of Jews who came there protected by a policeman armed with machine gun. They were separated from us.
Later, one of my best friend in "lycée", was a "Jew", called Marie since her father was from catholic extraction (he was violent and stupid by the way) since her mother was an Sephardic Jew from Algeria (most Jews in Villeurbanne are Sephardic) but she spent her afternoon with Muslim friends because they were Algerians and they could share their nostalgia of the "bled" (country) and listened to Reinette l'Oranaise who every Algerians of that time just love rightfully so:
Marie was very critical of the Jewish mentality even if she had good friends. I could tell you more and how she tried to introduce me to important Jewish investors in the media who clearly rejected me for not being a Jew.
You are a Levit... Some fifteen years ago I had a friend who was a Levy, very bright, highly educated? His father once threatened me because I was contradicting the official version of 9/11, mentioning the fact that there were a lot of Jewish implications in these events. I never ever meant that they were associated in any way, they were people I liked, I was speaking the truth. Because Bugey knows how to fight, the father stoped and afterward we again had good relationships. the mother, a Christian, hated me and smeared me as an antisemitic in the village, it was bad but I stood firm. when my friend married a Chitza from Colombia, I offered the tent I lived in and built a nest of lovefor their night wedding spending hours to decorate it with friends, bringing fruits delicacies, champagne.
The mother told me I was persona non grata for the party. I remained alone in My other tent in the forest (Bugey loves tents). The next day, my Levy friend came with his bride, her parents from Colombia, Mr Levy and told me that it was a shame I had been banned and invited me for the day... When we talked about "conspiracy theory", Jewish implication, my friend was very open and told me as a final word, that according to him, the problem was not only Jewish but the fact that weapon industry was ruling the world. Fair enough, I agreed with him.
I met Jews from Israel, and told them about all the bad things that I have read. They just ignored it and were rather disturbed because it was not teh way they had been raised in their family, and they were feeling bad about the Palestinian suffering. I gave them qi gong courses and witnessed taht they were like Rolo would say, "mammals", like me and the palestinians I had met who had told me about the corruption of Palestinian elite.
I have met other so called Jews who didn't want to interact with their family unless superficially because of the racism against non Jews...
I discovered Yeshayaou Leibowitz (Jah bless his memory) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYLLLrGbHyYby "Judeo Nazis exist" by the work of Eyal Sivan and had contacted him at that time like I did later with the great Gilad Atzmon when I discovered his writings decades ago...
This is it Elena and I have read many books, I have "Deux cents ans ensemble" and many others.
I wish we could interact longer but it is not the place.
Let's come back to my question, "What is a Jew?"
Your answered clearly about your trauma, you didn't give me a definition. I respect your trauma.
In the village where I live Elena, like in all village and cities in France, they are monuments commemorating the death of millions of French, nationwide during WWI and I remember my grand father telling me for years, until his death, the trenches. that war has been a traumatic event for millions of French and teh trauma has been passed on by the millions of women who had lost their husband, fathers, cousin, lovers... etc...
Should we talk about the trauma of People in Maghreb, Africa, China... We are almost all bearing the burden of past trauma.
That is not a definition of Jewishness.
I have in my library, "Hitler's Jewish soldiers" and that must read book start with an attempt at defining what a Jew is, rightfully so.
I will risk a definition. A Jew is an observant of the religious tenets, the Mitzvot. Karaïtes are Jew but they don't have that disturbingly psychopathic Talmud.
Claiming that Judaism is a race is very problematic, it is more an ideology... That is not satisfying... Maybe. Furthermore it is not the right place to expand.
You have nothing to do with the evil human being (lizard in disguise?) you mentioned and their pathological so called Jewish ideology and I wish you could define yourself beyond past trauma. You are Russian.
As an aside, right before I wrote my long post, I was listening to that most important podcast were a wistleblower was giving information of the utmost interest for the French population about the corruption in our plagued and occupied nation.https://crowdbunker.com/v/BsyM2UJ1RP
The guy is called Raphael Cohen and he doesn't give a damn about his ancestral origin, he is a righteous man, a noble soul a a first class french, Jah bless him.
Jews who are critics of Israel and the Jewish organised community are menaced, violented like the very very great Jacob Cohen who has been beaten by the Likoud thugs in France at 70 years old.
Internet is also a slavenet and we are like Zeks meeting in a corner of the goulag to share some extra the guards didn't notice we had, pieces of lights, pieces of our dark moods that we can transmute hopefully.
Yes, we can have nostalgia of pre-neolithic real communism or some places and episodic human experiences describe by Graeber and Winslow.
Anyway, Thanks God, I am in the country side with nice neighbours and I have just collected, for real Elena, green beans that I shared with the nearest family and Mia, the 7 years old daughter exclaimed herself, "oh! green beans!"while her dad said smilingly that his wife will be happy but that he preferred pastas. Soon Tomatoes will be ripen, I even have black one from Crimea....
Keep the sweet song sung by an angel in your heart...
You have the email address now. French and Russians have a long history together. We will keep it on to agree and disagree as soon as you will be strong enough to write.
I love French history. It's as cruel and bloody as the Russian one:) You have started all of these , I mean the agenda, with the Enlightment and your revolution just on the 18th century.
Hi Lionel! Your post was delrted with your geave antisemitic content, right? No, my French isn't enough to connect or even to understand by voice for pity. I know German a bit but less than English.
I would be be happy to tell what I meant with my words.
I'm feeling the weight of centuries of opression. I know my genealogic history from the early 18th century and I've got nothing to be shame with my ancestors. I've got the Russian surnane after my late husband, but my maden name is the Levit's one. My great grandmother was graduated from Heidelberg as a doctor, before revolution of course, and she was killed during Holacaust the autumn of 1941 in Kharkov. By nazy. With the hands of the Ukrainians. Read Babiy Jar by Anatoly Kuznetzov. It's a great evidence of the teen boy who was in the occupied Kiev. Half Russian, half Ukrainian he was. As for my great grandmum she didn't believe the Soviet propaganda about the Germans so she wasn't evacuated. She was separated from her german univercity friends with the october revolution of 1917. Her blood is in my vessels as well as the blood of my another great grandmother who was murdered during pogrom on 1920. It was the civil war and all the Jews in the small settlement in Belorussia were killed. She was killed with an axe, her old father in law was shooted, my granddad younger brother was hanged. The family of his uncle was killed. The youngest of my granddad brother who was 6 could hide and he had seen how his mum, his granddad and his brother were murdered. He left his life emmigrated to the States all in all. Everybody who stayed at home in thus very Jewish settlement were murdered. And how much of Jewish blood of martures is crying. Not for revenge. For beeing just remembered. It's just briefly. Very briefly. That's what I mean with the genetic memory I'd never betray.
Hello Elena,
You wrote:"Hi Lionel! Your post was delrted with your geave antisemitic content, right?"
Lol
No Elena there was no so called antisemitism in my writing and I will try to write again what I did yesterday. i don't even think you are a semite since you don't relate to a people with semitic language (correct me if I'm wrong).
I grew up in a city which has an higher percentage of Jews than in usual French city, Villeurbanne. It has a synagogue in it's center and two private schools for Jews only. The city is run by free maçons. Jews are 3% of the overall French population but like in many western countries, they are a majority in the media and if you ask any French, he would tell you an higher rate.
When I was a child, one of the mother who accompanied us kids to school was Madame Cohen. She was a very kind person who was very attentive to us. I remember when she told my mother that my voice was mutating with a great smile on her face.She clearly loves us. I knew she was a so called Jew because my father said so, without any hint of disregard. She was a French mother to me, it's just that her son, my friend didn't go to catechism with us, courses which were given by very kind "prêtres ouvriers" who told us about love for the others without any disregard for other human beings. She was secularized and a regular french in my eyes. Later on, another Jewish family settled some hundred meters from our home and established a synagogue. The son of the house was called Michael and was a good football pal with whom we loved to play. His mother had much disdain for us and I could clearly feel it as a child, in fact never before had I met an adult who had that attitude. The Rav never interact with any of the neighbourhood, like the flock of Jews who came there protected by a policeman armed with machine gun. They were separated from us.
Later, one of my best friend in "lycée", was a "Jew", called Marie since her father was from catholic extraction (he was violent and stupid by the way) since her mother was an Sephardic Jew from Algeria (most Jews in Villeurbanne are Sephardic) but she spent her afternoon with Muslim friends because they were Algerians and they could share their nostalgia of the "bled" (country) and listened to Reinette l'Oranaise who every Algerians of that time just love rightfully so:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGtevtVQqQg
Marie was very critical of the Jewish mentality even if she had good friends. I could tell you more and how she tried to introduce me to important Jewish investors in the media who clearly rejected me for not being a Jew.
You are a Levit... Some fifteen years ago I had a friend who was a Levy, very bright, highly educated? His father once threatened me because I was contradicting the official version of 9/11, mentioning the fact that there were a lot of Jewish implications in these events. I never ever meant that they were associated in any way, they were people I liked, I was speaking the truth. Because Bugey knows how to fight, the father stoped and afterward we again had good relationships. the mother, a Christian, hated me and smeared me as an antisemitic in the village, it was bad but I stood firm. when my friend married a Chitza from Colombia, I offered the tent I lived in and built a nest of lovefor their night wedding spending hours to decorate it with friends, bringing fruits delicacies, champagne.
The mother told me I was persona non grata for the party. I remained alone in My other tent in the forest (Bugey loves tents). The next day, my Levy friend came with his bride, her parents from Colombia, Mr Levy and told me that it was a shame I had been banned and invited me for the day... When we talked about "conspiracy theory", Jewish implication, my friend was very open and told me as a final word, that according to him, the problem was not only Jewish but the fact that weapon industry was ruling the world. Fair enough, I agreed with him.
I met Jews from Israel, and told them about all the bad things that I have read. They just ignored it and were rather disturbed because it was not teh way they had been raised in their family, and they were feeling bad about the Palestinian suffering. I gave them qi gong courses and witnessed taht they were like Rolo would say, "mammals", like me and the palestinians I had met who had told me about the corruption of Palestinian elite.
I have met other so called Jews who didn't want to interact with their family unless superficially because of the racism against non Jews...
I discovered Yeshayaou Leibowitz (Jah bless his memory) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYLLLrGbHyYby "Judeo Nazis exist" by the work of Eyal Sivan and had contacted him at that time like I did later with the great Gilad Atzmon when I discovered his writings decades ago...
This is it Elena and I have read many books, I have "Deux cents ans ensemble" and many others.
I wish we could interact longer but it is not the place.
Let's come back to my question, "What is a Jew?"
Your answered clearly about your trauma, you didn't give me a definition. I respect your trauma.
In the village where I live Elena, like in all village and cities in France, they are monuments commemorating the death of millions of French, nationwide during WWI and I remember my grand father telling me for years, until his death, the trenches. that war has been a traumatic event for millions of French and teh trauma has been passed on by the millions of women who had lost their husband, fathers, cousin, lovers... etc...
Should we talk about the trauma of People in Maghreb, Africa, China... We are almost all bearing the burden of past trauma.
That is not a definition of Jewishness.
I have in my library, "Hitler's Jewish soldiers" and that must read book start with an attempt at defining what a Jew is, rightfully so.
I will risk a definition. A Jew is an observant of the religious tenets, the Mitzvot. Karaïtes are Jew but they don't have that disturbingly psychopathic Talmud.
Claiming that Judaism is a race is very problematic, it is more an ideology... That is not satisfying... Maybe. Furthermore it is not the right place to expand.
You have nothing to do with the evil human being (lizard in disguise?) you mentioned and their pathological so called Jewish ideology and I wish you could define yourself beyond past trauma. You are Russian.
Respectfully
Bugey
As an aside, right before I wrote my long post, I was listening to that most important podcast were a wistleblower was giving information of the utmost interest for the French population about the corruption in our plagued and occupied nation.https://crowdbunker.com/v/BsyM2UJ1RP
The guy is called Raphael Cohen and he doesn't give a damn about his ancestral origin, he is a righteous man, a noble soul a a first class french, Jah bless him.
Jews who are critics of Israel and the Jewish organised community are menaced, violented like the very very great Jacob Cohen who has been beaten by the Likoud thugs in France at 70 years old.
https://crowdbunker.com/v/BsyM2UJ1RP
If you like you could write me, Lionell, in the telegram: @elke_11
But a bit later. Tomorrow I'll have a serious surgery.
I don't have telegram since I have no slavephone.
perichonlionel@protonmail.com
The surgery will go just fine and pretty soon you will feel much better Elena, don't worry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXlzxDl32ic
Thank you. I will write, Lionell!
Internet is also the slavenet, isn't it?:)
The best thing is ti live in the cave gathering berries
Internet is also a slavenet and we are like Zeks meeting in a corner of the goulag to share some extra the guards didn't notice we had, pieces of lights, pieces of our dark moods that we can transmute hopefully.
Yes, we can have nostalgia of pre-neolithic real communism or some places and episodic human experiences describe by Graeber and Winslow.
Anyway, Thanks God, I am in the country side with nice neighbours and I have just collected, for real Elena, green beans that I shared with the nearest family and Mia, the 7 years old daughter exclaimed herself, "oh! green beans!"while her dad said smilingly that his wife will be happy but that he preferred pastas. Soon Tomatoes will be ripen, I even have black one from Crimea....
Keep the sweet song sung by an angel in your heart...
Nice picture of your living. You've got a wonderful family!
I also live by the countey side. I couldn't live in ciry. It drove me mad.
And I like grean beans:)
You have the email address now. French and Russians have a long history together. We will keep it on to agree and disagree as soon as you will be strong enough to write.
Greetings to your relatives.
I love French history. It's as cruel and bloody as the Russian one:) You have started all of these , I mean the agenda, with the Enlightment and your revolution just on the 18th century.
I will write you, Lionell. A bit later.
I'm a widow. I've got the only adult son.